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	<title>Comments on: A Visit to the abandoned city of Fatehpur Sikri - Part II</title>
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		<title>By: Manish Khamesra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manish Khamesra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Viswanath for liking the article, I wish you a wonderful trip.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Though I read two versions of abandoning this city one was water and another being that Akbar had to shift to Punjab due to military reasons. It is noted, even by those who believe that this city was abandoned because of meager water supply, that channels were dug to supply water from nearby Lake. According to them later on that lake started to dry. This can be a valid reason, though ASI specifically wrote at fort that this city was not abandoned for the lack of water supply. It sort of augment your belief.

History can only be revealed in pieces and it gets distorted, so we should read about all and can have our own beliefs.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, scarcity of water can cause abandoning of a city. I believe that Rahimji was not wrong when he said that:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rahiman pani rakhiye, bin paani sab soon,&lt;br /&gt;
paani gaye naa ubaare, Moti maanas choon.&lt;br /&gt;
(This simple doha from Rahimji has so many meanings and all of them being so profound).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I pity those women/men who are crazy about a person who is not committed. In my opinion there is a big difference between them and Kings/rulers (supporting harem and having many women) - these star crazy women are not "forced to go to bed" with rock stars/ sport stars while the kings  could force any to be in their harem/Jenana Dyodi. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Care-free life! I think it was more of a life dependent on liquor, drugs and those maintaining law and order inside Harem. Those closer to King had upper hands and those not might be treated like slaves.&lt;/p&gt;

Indeed the verse written on Buland Darwaza is very profound and this is what I expect from a learned king like Akbar who had spiritual interests too.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Viswanath for liking the article, I wish you a wonderful trip.</p>
<p>Though I read two versions of abandoning this city one was water and another being that Akbar had to shift to Punjab due to military reasons. It is noted, even by those who believe that this city was abandoned because of meager water supply, that channels were dug to supply water from nearby Lake. According to them later on that lake started to dry. This can be a valid reason, though ASI specifically wrote at fort that this city was not abandoned for the lack of water supply. It sort of augment your belief.</p>
<p>History can only be revealed in pieces and it gets distorted, so we should read about all and can have our own beliefs.  </p>
<p>But, scarcity of water can cause abandoning of a city. I believe that Rahimji was not wrong when he said that:</p>
<p>Rahiman pani rakhiye, bin paani sab soon,<br />
paani gaye naa ubaare, Moti maanas choon.<br />
(This simple doha from Rahimji has so many meanings and all of them being so profound).</p>
<p>I pity those women/men who are crazy about a person who is not committed. In my opinion there is a big difference between them and Kings/rulers (supporting harem and having many women) - these star crazy women are not &#8220;forced to go to bed&#8221; with rock stars/ sport stars while the kings  could force any to be in their harem/Jenana Dyodi. </p>
<p>Care-free life! I think it was more of a life dependent on liquor, drugs and those maintaining law and order inside Harem. Those closer to King had upper hands and those not might be treated like slaves.</p>
<p>Indeed the verse written on Buland Darwaza is very profound and this is what I expect from a learned king like Akbar who had spiritual interests too.</p>
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		<title>By: Viswanath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Viswanath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I found your article very informative. I am on way to Agra and will be there on thursday.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the things that surprises me is that they choose to abandon just because of water shortage. Water can be brought to the palace through water channels from a close by river to the fort. If Akbar wanted it, it would have been done.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe it was a deliberate plan on part of Akbar to change palaces to keep hold on power and change the politics in the palace.&lt;br /&gt;
It is something like a clean up act. A legitimate strategy by a ruler.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are many rock star singers and sports men who bedded more than&lt;br /&gt;
thousand women in the modern era.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As far as harem goes, I bet he would have slept with many of them sometime or other. I bet some got it more than others. But, that is expected when you have that many women. In their spare time, I would think they led a care free life. 

&lt;p&gt;I definitely like the meaningful verse on Bulund Darwaja.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your article very informative. I am on way to Agra and will be there on thursday.</p>
<p>One of the things that surprises me is that they choose to abandon just because of water shortage. Water can be brought to the palace through water channels from a close by river to the fort. If Akbar wanted it, it would have been done.</p>
<p>I believe it was a deliberate plan on part of Akbar to change palaces to keep hold on power and change the politics in the palace.<br />
It is something like a clean up act. A legitimate strategy by a ruler.</p>
<p>There are many rock star singers and sports men who bedded more than<br />
thousand women in the modern era.</p>
<p>As far as harem goes, I bet he would have slept with many of them sometime or other. I bet some got it more than others. But, that is expected when you have that many women. In their spare time, I would think they led a care free life. </p>
<p>I definitely like the meaningful verse on Bulund Darwaja.</p>
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		<title>By: manish khamesra</title>
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		<dc:creator>manish khamesra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Summarized Celine :) thanks for your comment.

I will keep my fingers crossed to get at least one decisive vote for (a) choice at your site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Summarized Celine :) thanks for your comment.</p>
<p>I will keep my fingers crossed to get at least one decisive vote for (a) choice at your site.</p>
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